While the glee that
Hillary Clinton shows over a human being's death, even if it was Muammar Qaddafi, is rather disarming, what is
even more concerning is what has happened to Libya since the Obama
Administration's ill-advised moves to unseat Libya's leadership back in 2011.
A recent briefing by Pentagon Press Secretary
Peter Cook gives us a sense of what could come to pass in Libya as the Pentagon
attempts to cram the "ISIS genie" that it created in Iraq back into
the bottle:
Q: I wanted
to ask you about the possibility of the U.S. expanding its counter ISIL efforts
into Libya. The chairman traveling in Europe this week said that it was fair to
say that the U.S. needed to take decisive military action -- he said, in
conjunction with the political events in Libya.
Can you help us understand
what he's talking about and what's under consideration in terms of expanding
efforts against ISIL into Libya?
MR. COOK: Well, as the chairman has discussed, as
the Secretary has spoken on numerous occasions, including just last week in our
visit to Paris and our meetings with other members of the ISIL coalition, we
are extremely worried about the metastasis of ISIL to other locations, Libya
being just one of those locations.
We continue to monitor the situation there.
Continue to work very closely with our coalition partners, with others in the
region who have similar concerns about the situation in Libya. And I think
it's fair to say that we are closely monitoring the situation. As Chairman
Dunford has indicated, working with those partners and also continuing to have
conversations with people on the ground as to exactly what is happening there
and the threat that ISIL poses to the United States and others.
Q: Could we
see an expansion into Libya that looks something like what's going on in Iraq
and Syria? That is to say, more consistent air strikes and even possibly some
limited ground actions?
MR. COOK:
We've shown in the past a willingness to strike in Libya. We've taken out a key
ISIL leader in Libya in the past. But I think Jamie, it's too soon to say at
this point exactly where things will evolve. We're taking a very close look at
this situation.
Again, it's not just the United States that's involved here,
that has a stake in what happens in Libya. We're continuing, of course, through
the State Department, to support the effort to -- to forge a government in --
in Libya, and we think that's a critical step in terms of the governance of the
country to trying to address the -- the ISIL threat as well. It's not just a
military solution here.
But we're going to continue to monitor it, and -- and
as Chairman Dunford indicated, we see this threat in ISIL as a serious threat,
and we're going to continue to -- to monitor the situation and consider what options
we have moving forward.
Q: Chairman
Dunford seemed to indicate that those options might be presented to the
president in -- I think he said in -- in a matter of weeks. Are -- so we -- are
we talking about seeing some significant stepping-up of the operations against
Libya in a matter of weeks?
MR. COOK: I think we're going to continue to assess
the -- the threat in Libya and respond accordingly, and the chairman and the
secretary will continue to have those conversations with the president's
national security team and with our partners as well, as we assess the threat
in Libya.
Q: Can you
-- can you rule out U.S. boots on the ground going to Libya? Is that
(inaudible) discussion?
MR. COOK:
You -- you know the situation right now. We've had -- acknowledged that there
have been some U.S. forces in Libya trying to establish contact with forces on
the ground so that we get a clear picture of what's happening there.
But
beyond that, it's -- again, we're going to consider all of our options going
forward. Right now, that's not something that's -- that's under
consideration....
...Q: Going back to Libya for a second, are there
currently U.S. forces on the ground there?
MR. COOK:
I'm not going to tell you exactly what the disposition of our forces are there.
I can acknowledge that we've had forces on the ground previously as we've
indicated, to engage in conversations with local forces to get a clearer
picture of exactly what's happening there.
Q: And can
you give us a better sense of what that discussion with local forces is? Is
that is preparing to organize the kinds of militias we can work with? Is it
meeting with political leaders to get a sense of whom supports whom? I mean, it
sounds as though it's a very complicated picture with dozens if not hundreds of
different kinds of militias. What exactly is the U.S. stance?
MR. COOK:
It is a complicated picture and I think you've characterized pretty well what
the goal would be and that is to simply get a better sense of who the players
are, who might be worthy of U.S. support and support from some of our partners
going forward in the fight against ISIL.
It is a
complicated picture. And that's why the formation of a government is so central
to the future for Libya and to also addressing the issue of ISIL in Libya. And so
part of the presence -- the reason for the presence of those troops is to,
again, get a sense of the forces on the ground, the players on the ground and
exactly what's happening, because it is a muddled picture right now. And we --
that is one of the best ways we can get a better sense of what's
happening." (my bold)
Let's look
at how long the Pentagon has been sitting on the Libya-ISIS connection. Here
are some quotes from a Pentagon press conference on December 3, 2014 with U.S.
Africa Command Commander General David Rodriguez:
"Q:
General, if you'll forgive me, I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you
about a different topic, which -- in your AOR -- which is Libya. I was
wondering if you could give us an assessment on what's happening in the battle
between General Khalifa's forces and Ansar al-Sharia. Can you give us a sense
of how you see the area of particularly eastern Libya, who controls what, and
what kind of grip ISIS and other extremist groups have in that part of the
country.
GEN.
RODRIGUEZ: Yes. The challenge in Libya, of course, is the multiple militias,
the multiple governments, between the national convention, as well as the House
of Representatives and -- quite frankly, a lot of confusion on the ground about
who's in charge and not. The effort over
there by the former General Haftar, who has been fighting in the east, as well
as Ansar al-Sharia, as you said, you know, continues to go back and forth. It's
about who controls the airport, who controls some of the checkpoints. That
continues to go back and forth. He continued to control the airport out there. And
ISIL has begun its efforts over in the east out there to introduce some people
over there. But we'll have to just continue to monitor and watch that carefully
in the future to see what happens or whether it grows on unabated.
Q: Can I
just follow up quickly? Control the airport, you're talking to Benghazi
airport?
GEN.
RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Yes.
Q: And one
of the things that we've heard is that ISIS has started to move into western
Libya around Tripoli. Is that something that you're seeing, as well?
GEN.
RODRIGUEZ: We're continuing to watch that. The intelligence community has mixed
reports no that right now. But we're continuing to watch that. But most of it
is over in the east right now.
Q: Can I
follow up on all of that, please, sir?
GEN.
RODRIGUEZ: Uh-huh.
Q: A couple of -- Libya, in the east. What's
your assessment of how many, what kind of ISIL fighters you're seeing in the
east? Do they have a network, like are you seeing command-and-control? Or are
these stray people wandering in?
GEN. RODRIGUEZ: It's mainly about people
coming for training and logistics support right now. It's for training sites,
and that's what we see right now. As far as a huge command-and-control network,
I've not seen that yet.
Q: So you're seeing ISIS training sites in
eastern Libya?
GEN. RODRIGUEZ: Uh-huh, yes.
Q: A -- a ballpark figure?
GEN. RODRIGUEZ: No, the numbers are somewhere
around a couple hundred is the estimate. But, again, we don't have a specific,
precise assessment of that right now." (my bold)
Let me repeat that. Fourteen months ago, the Pentagon was aware
that ISIS was moving into Libya and that it was training "a couple
hundred" jihadists in eastern Libya. Now, according to the Department of Defense (via the New York Times), there are between 5000 and 6500 ISIS fighters in Libya and we all know what a few thousand ISIS fighters can accomplish! Not only is ISIS a problem in Libya but, according to this report, Nigeria-based terrorist group
Boko Haram has sent hundreds of fighters to help ISIS capture civil
war-torn Libya and it appears that the Muslim Brotherhood (Libyan branch) may be looking to join with al-Qaeda and ISIS to form a united Islamic front. As well, al-Qaeda affiliates are active in Libya as shown
on this map:
This map shows the regions in Libya that were
controlled by ISIS back in June 2015:
While the ISIS-controlled region may appear to be relatively small, here is a map showing that the vast majority
of Libyans live along the nation's north coast, close to or in the regions that
are at least partially controlled by ISIS:
Let's close this posting with this exchange with Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter from January 28, 2016 on the subject of Libya:
"Q: Can I follow up on that for a minute? When
you look at Libya and -- and you talked about, you know, the need to protect --
protect ourselves, what's your sense of the real threat that ISIS in Libya does
pose at the moment?
What's their capability? What threat do they
pose to the United States? Can you talk a little bit about how big this effort
is that the --
SEC. CARTER: I'm going to be careful, because
I don't want to go into intelligence matters. But as general characterization,
they are trying to consolidate their own footprint there, and they're very
focused on that.
We're monitoring that. That's a concern to us,
because ISIL obviously tries to destabilize places where -- where they are. And
ISIL around the world has indicated that part of its ideology is to attack
Westerners, including Americans.
So we have to look at this with great concern,
and that is why we've taken some action already in Libya against ISIL members,
because of the threat they pose to the United States.
Q: When you say consolidate their footprint in
Libya, can we make sure we understand what you mean there?
SEC. CARTER: It means -- it means -- it means
--
Q: Do you think they're trying to develop a
capability, command, control -- be able to launch attacks from Libya? What do
-- what do you mean?
SEC. CARTER: Well, they're establishing the --
installations where they train people. They're welcoming foreign fighters to
flock there, the way, in years past, they did in Syria and Iraq. And they're
trying to take over the reins of -- of the economy and tax it the way you see
ISIL doing in -- so you see the same kind of ambitions -- ambitions on their
part that you see realized in full flower in Syria and Iraq.
And we don't want to be on a glide slope to a
situation like Syria and Iraq. That's the reason why we're watching it that
closely. That's the reason why we develop options for what we might do in the
future." (my bold)
While the Pentagon bragged about killing ISIS' senior leader in Libya, Abu Nabil, back in December 2015, Libya still lacks a central government that would have the potential to control the spread of ISIS. In addition, the rest of the current administration's policies toward Libya have been shocking given their haste to rid Libya of its dictator. Once again, the creation of a geopolitical vacuum in the Middle East has created central government instability which has led to the laying out of the proverbial welcome mat for ISIS.
I wonder if potential President Hillary Clinton thinks that the situation in Libya is as funny now as it was back in 2011! In any case, it would appear that it is far, far too late to close the "barn door".
If I were on Feel the Bern's staff I would be showing the video of Muammar Qaddafi getting beaten once he was captured (there is the death video of him being sodomised) we cant be sure at the moment in time which video was sent to Hillary. I'll give her the benefit of doubt and say it was "only" the beating video. Splice the two videos together and then pose the question is this psycho the person you want running this country?
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